What followed was a long-lasting wave of criticism and international outrage that earned Fonda the nickname " CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. William Burkhead, a Democrat from Anne Arundel, said, I wouldnt want to kill her, but I wouldnt mind if you cut her tongue off, according to a Post story. I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. Politicians make mistakes that affect the body politic and statesmen sometimes direct a foreign policy that disregards individuals in the national interest. Legal Statement. Which is precisely why U.S. liberals so vehemently protested U.S. involvement - and that is the only reason - we were destroying their comrades the communists. I mean, that's like the bank robber saying, "I'm sorry I got caught.". LBJ and Congress share responsibility for the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, with its dubious basis, and everything that followed. You know, I have an organization in Georgia that deals with adolescents, and Ive studied parenting. I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. In July of 1972, she made two trips to officers, toward the Chinese border amid cries of protest from Wall Street which feared war with "our trading partner" Red China. I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. This weekend's special I mean, this is very moving. and how good she feels in her 70s. She said:I have very few regrets. That begs the question, responsible for what? She said that she regretted it. I know what its supposed to be now. The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. She apologized for being on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. On a hot, stickyMay afternoon in 1970,a crowd of several thousand students and protesterstook over the University of Maryland mall. Support with a donation>>. Her lawsuit started it all: Former Fox host Gretchen Carlson claims Ailes repeatedly sexually harassed her. I went to a session at the 2003 Peace History Society Conference in Mt. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. That's an apology. The people who are speaking out against the war are the patriots. She said the radio addresses were the only way to get access to American soldiers, because she was barred from meeting them at their bases in South Vietnam. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. As the war raged, the one-time blonde bombshell cut her naturally brown hair short, trading sex appeal for liberal activism and rebranding herself as a political crusader against the war. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," April 6, 2005, that has been edited for clarity. She also spoke about her infamous protests. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. They knew we were coming. He didnt live to see it published. This story hearkens to a real visit to North Vietnam by Jane Fonda in July of 1972, but the stories about betraying POWs is not true. The Fonda trip became unforgettable because it infuriated Americans, especially Americans in uniform, many of whom still regard her as a traitor. The actual allegation took the form of an email citing the alleged experiences of a number of Viet Nam War veterans at the hands of Jane Fonda. Never. and booed people attending the event, according to the Frederick News-Post. All Rights Reserved, Copyright MAGA Conservatives. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. She now works at Reuters. Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. Again and again against incredible odds, and at great cost in American casualties, U.S. forces stopped the enemy; but were prevented by President Truman from administering the coup de grace. We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. Shewas arrested before she got the chance, just as she had been at Fort Lewis, Wash., Fort Hood, Tex., and Fort Bragg, N.C. Fonda told The Post shed made talking to GIs herfull-time job. . According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. In July of 1972, she made two trips to Hanoi which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane. These horrendous claims went around the nation on the Internet, resulting in a great deal of anger and consternation among veterans. CNN anchorChris Wallace grilled Hollywood legend and activist Jane Fonda over her controversial visit to North Vietnam that caused millions to dub her Hanoi Jane, and got a full spectrum response on the subject. Whether youre a lifelong resident of D.C. or you just moved here, weve got you covered. I mean, the reality of it is that's not an apology. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. Good question here Richard: "My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people?" Andrea Tantaros, former co-host of "The Five," filed a lawsuit saying that Fox News operated like a "sex-fueled, Playboy-Mansion-like cult.". But the action that still enrages veterans most was that photograph of her with North Vietnamese troops onan antiaircraft gunthat would have been used to shoot down American planes. She has to be a murderess too. Truman warned Chiang to integrate communists into China's nationalist government or American aid would be withdrawn. And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. I suppose that since I am never really planned to be an Intern next semester (not in a full time sense, save as a researcher), and since my term is essentially over, I can join the conversation as Joe Public. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. "CHINA: Following WWII, Mao Tse-Tung, financed by the international banks, led his Chinese communists in an armed conflict against nationalist China under Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek, America's ally against Japan. No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News Network, L.L.C. ET! I think so, and I would hope that all Americans will at least speak their minds at the movie box office and refuse to further enrich one of the greatest American traitors. Lets break down her remarks. I wanted to tell them what I was seeing as an American on the ground there. tips@mediaite.com. Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. I feel sorry for NORTH: She didn't apologize, Alan. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. Then Dr. Spock attacked the Vietnam draft. In her book, she says she's a Christian. She said It is possible it was a setup, I will never know. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. Here it is. placement: 'Right Rail Thumbnails', If it wasn't I must be missing something. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. [5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. or redistributed. It evidently didnt. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. Donald Free shipping for many products! Look it, there were clandestine operations conducted in every war. Four die; one, Col. Larry Carrigan, survivesjust barely, but it is he who tells about the incident. During the visit she posed for several pictures. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Fonda told the audience that their protests saddened her. MacArthur was denied his request to attack enemy forces massing across the Yalu border in preparation for attack. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? Listen closely. She has said that she regrets doing this. He was denied his request to gather intelligence by aerial reconnaissance over China. It's not just handing out, you know, blankets. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it.. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." And its about a woman who had a capacity for reinvention that, like Jay Gatsbys, was the more effective for her whole-souled belief in what she devised. On the basis of those meetings alone, she proclaimed that American POW's weren't being mistreated, and that any who said they were mistreated werte either liars, or were simply experiencing punishment for their racist treatment and attitude towards their Vietnamese captors. Why has no one been hanged for high treason? From Urban Legends: An analogy: I'm more upset by somebody coming into my house and stealing from me than I am by a tax increase, or even by government malfeasance. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. But she was advised by other activists to focus her political energies, deciding to go all-in as an impassioned voice for the antiwar movement. Manywere there to protest the Vietnam War. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. The "advisors" assisted inept South Vietnamese in their ongoing war against the North Vietnamese, who also happened to be communists. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. What most Viet-Nam veterans think about Jane Fonda is expressed in a number of products sold by D & G Enterprises, Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. She called the POW's liars. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. It hurts me, she said, and it will to my grave that I made a huge, huge mistake that made a lot of people think I was against the soldiers., The Dragon Lady: How Madame Nhu helped escalate the Vietnam War. Heres a transcript of her remarks so you can judge for yourself. Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. Considering the admonition about Caesar's wife, perhaps HNN should remove you as an intern. And its about a woman who had a capacity for reinvention that, like Jay Gatsbys, was the more effective for her whole-souled belief in what she devised. "Because of this," the narrative continues, "I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped." Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. I mean, he realized that . I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. And number three: you've got the propaganda broadcasts themselves, where she substitutes for Hanoi Hannah, who broadcasts to the American troops all the time. During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. Christopher Andersen, Citizen Jane (New York: Henry Holt and Company. The cover called her Ms. In 2005, she apologized again on 60 Fondas wide-ranging response went from apologetic to defiant and everywhere in between: CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. I mean, he realized that. It was the last day of my two week time there. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. MacArthur asked Truman to permit Chiang Kai-Shek's troops to fight with Americans against the Red Chinese. Have a tip or story idea? Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. Congress held hearings. A photograph caught her looking through the scope of an anti-aircraft gun, surrounded by revolutionaries. I sang a song. Sheturned down a four-year, $100 million offer to stay with Fox News saying that one of the reasonsfor her departure was to spend more time with her kids. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, She visited Russia in the early Sixties, and was personally impressed by the deference she received. This, probably more than anything, earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane.. Denying a final victory over a dedicated and skilled marxist enemy was a recipe for the murder of our men. She and actor Donald Sutherland started an anti-USO troupe to counter Bob Hopes famous shows for the troops. I mean, that's what you and I do with our wives when we say something that we shouldn't have said. I stand by the article as it was written. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. Nixon has responsibility for everything he did or didn't do on his watch. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? Legal Statement. They held signs that read Forgive? The one story that was true never touched the question of whether or not she directly participated in war crimes. SIGN UP FOR OUR FREE DAILY NEWSLETTER, FIRST TAKE, Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat, 'Jane Fonda in Five Acts' Film Review: Doc Explores the Many Lives of the Actress-Activist, How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', said she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. Here's the record, number one: you've got the photo on the anti-aircraft gun that you add on during the transition. We're going to take them out. But newly discovered tapes tell a very, very different story. Her rebellion against the foreign policies of the United States suggested to many outraged Americans that treason might have an All-American face, a familiar accent, and be closer to home than the Other that had previously been assumed to embody the enemy. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. We have no right to attack that country. Thats all the ground troops were going home. Jane Fonda was always an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War. When Jane Fonda Rocked the U.S. Army A newly exhumed documentary delves into the actresss anti-Vietnam vaudeville tour of American military bases in 1972. I think you'll find that those are things on a more personal level than stupdities and worse committed by LBJ, Congress, and Nixon. However, it was a bit too long, and Dr. Shenkman needed it shortened in the interest of time. Deprived of American assistance, his army bereft of supplies, Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to the island sanctuary of Formosa and dug in. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription! The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. 1990) Pages 121-123. They have never acknowledged their role in the killing fields of Cambodia and fail to discuss the fact that Vietnam, one of about four communist countries left on the face of this earth, is currently at the bottom rung of third world nations in terms of per capita income. Fonda said that whileshe may have been tricked into taking the picture, The buck stops here. ET!. Lee said she still loves being a journalist and thatshehas"some really big ideas on how to better serve you in that particular arena" without Fox News. I mean Alan, this woman was totally caught up in the age of the '60s, the rhetoric of the '60s, and quite frankly I feel sorry for her, because she's not out of it. At the time, Hanoi Jane was serenaded with a Communist folk song and was led to a weapon that had shot down many American aircraft, and photos were immediately taken. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? Fonda traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to protest the Vietnam War, but she did not do most of the things the post claims. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. Also Read: Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat. Kelly was defending herself after Fonda said over the weekend that the question was so inappropriate and that Kelly is not that good an interviewer.. Yet, despite treason in high places American troops - outnumbered ten-to-one - were winning the war. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. Oh, my God. WebNevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own I mean, it depends on what you want to know. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. How did we get into this war? Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. Was Jane Fonda's sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun that was used to shoot at and kill Americans, and launching an anti-American PR campaign with the North Vietnamese giving aid and comfort? But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. Colonel, Michelle Malkin (search) actually discovered other quotes that she had said. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. target_type: 'mix' In no sense am I a Fonda apologist. NORTH: Well, all I did was present the facts. Dr. Rockefeller certainly did not defend Communism as a "Jewish" system, since it is the Hebrew Bible that was the basis of our Common Law, and hence much of our Constitutional Order. The media heaped calumny on U.S. military leadership; presented biased, horrifying scenes depicting "the wanton killing of Vietnamese civilians", and the "degeneracy" of our fighting men and women. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. She said: I have very few regrets. But look, you have more to talk to us about something you're going to show us. If they did, can I really blame them? Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. Truman refused. Joe? It sounds loony until you actually think about it - and the general thesis of "no-win wars" (i.e. NORTH: Irrefutable for the three things she did, and I defined for you the rule, the actual constitutional language defining treason. How unfair! To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. HANNITY: That's quite often in my case, by the way. Hows this for a story? She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. Just before that experience, she said the words that continued to play through her head were: All men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. T. Jefferson. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. There's no statute of limitations on it. WebIn July of 1972 Jane Fonda went to Hanoi, North Vietnam, for a two-week tour of the country. The POWs are beaten. It never happened. Here is my best, honest recollection of what took place. The charges against Fonda went beyond the notion that she was an apologist for the mistreatment of American prisoners of war. I have great, great children, talented, smart, and I just didnt know how to do it. Article 3, section three of the Constitution defines treason as "levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies or giving them aid and comfort.". AND Screw you. However, when my credibility is challenged, I will respond. I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. Thats what made me laugh. But also admits to consulting with psychics. . It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. . For the next severalyears, Fonda would continue as one of the most prominent public faces in the antiwar movement. Dave Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. NORTH: In fact refused to apologize for the POW meeting, which was tantamount to, basically torture. True. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. NORTH: As a matter of fact, no. "Hanoi Run" from USSR to Viet Nam, was produced in Russian plants that had been built by American companies and financed by the Federal Reserve System. Thats what made me laugh. And by the way, did our government lie to us during Vietnam? After countless apologies spanning four decades, Breitbarts John Nolte believes Hanoi Jane Fonda should finally be forgiven for her antics in Vietnam.. Fonda has said categorically that she was an adult at the time and called her But she maintains she was not a traitor by speaking out against the war or trying to turn soldiers against it, because she still believesthe U.S. government was lying to them. Fondas transformation from actress to activist began several years earlier. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? It was the last day of my two week time there. The Army builds a tolerance for violence, she shouted at the crowd. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. www.DanandGEnterprises.com Thats all the ground troops were going home. Maybe. War materiel, shipped via the Fonda told Wallace that she did not like the nickname she was given, but she stuck by her choice to oppose the war. Due to the pressure of so-called "rationalists", Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution forbids Congress from excluding Communists, Anti-Semites, or Globalists from its membership, allowing the control that you decry. Her book just may not make the bestseller The cover called her Ms. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites.