Love the fact that Cam doesnt have any, but it is certainly not up to Mr. Richardson to dictate this. Problem is, he forgot who it is that was going to be paying his salary. For someone who nearly died a few years ago and had to undergo a quadruple bypass, he has an odd way of showing an appreciation for life. ************************************************** You can ask them, not tell them. yes its true, lots of companies have policy against visible tats while at work, and i can agree with that. He had NO option to play for someone else nor did he have the option of declining the job offer to work for another employer than has a more employee friendly dress code. The notion that teams would try to make players into non-threatening billboards seems more than a little heavy-handed, even if its done in the name of growing the pie to the benefit of teams and players alike. A company that owns the right to tattoos on NBA players is suing the makers of "NBA2K" for graphically representing those tattoos on NBA players without his permission. I am fairly sure that Cam wouldnt have chosen the Panthers had he had the opportunity. So u really want to believe that a QB spends every waking moment studying game films? Denver Broncos. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. He should be able to get tattoos, I mean look at major superstar athletes with tattoos. Russell Westbrook 10. Nobut players should know what the owners like. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. thats where again i have issue. Tattoos are the new mainstream. I see your point and its a good one. and not that cool old school. I just wanna know why you cant tackle some fool by his hair if hes going to wear it hanging out so far. ive had many coworkers that have to rock the long sleeves at work to cover up the tats, and theyre cool with that. Obviously this poll isnt important, but other more telling polls show the same thing. Your poll question says telling players which is a problem. Richardson doesnt care if Cam has a white girl, just not his grand daughter, ha ha. As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. Sure he could release him but he would still have to pay the guaranteed money in the contract and I am sure another team would be glad to pick him up. Tattoos have become more prominent across the league (and in sports in general) in its more recent history, though not all football stars have made smart ink choices. Its not about race or slavery or any of that other B.S. Let your play do the talking. This is not so much about race as it is about, the bottom line which is money. The more disturbing reality is that Jerry Richardson likely pushed for Newton based on his responses to this question, rather than picking the guy who has the best chance to succeed. WebFrom a big, beefy offensive lineman having Mamas Boy tatted on his massive biceps to Jeremy Shockeys nod to the great American bald eagle, the league is littered with tattoos that are questionable at best. Richardson owns the team so he can ask whatever he wants. Regardless of the motivation, theres something troubling about Richardsons position. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. But I cant have BOTH at this stage in my career. The Jaguars have had a resurgent season and one of the best defenses in the NFL. Maybe that makes him unattractive to media but he is the best!. A direction to a single employee isnt a policy. You bring in the best people to help you win. He is one of a few footballers without tattoos. I want the best image I can get for my product and that means different things for different places. If I want piercings or tats, I can go do something else. Employers (particularly those paying you millions) making these type of desires known is totally reasonable. When you work FOR somebody thats something that you have no control over. Register now! but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? I guess I can see the owners point as the face of the franchise but man it sure sounds pretty old school. Thats just fact. Full disclosure Im a 25 yo white male with a lot of tattoos. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. Would I care if he was the face of Packers? Hell, even the military is getting picking about where they want their Marines, soldiers, airmen or sailors to get tats. And as a subscriber to that corporate mindset, Jerry Richardson knows this all too well. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. my issue is this: sure companies can dictate how you show up and act at work, i get that. ===================. It is up to them, however, I have higher opinions of players who choose not to get tattoos or piercings. no one cares about your jobs or your bosses rules I dont. While Cam is not a front office guy he is the CEO on the field. however, picking and choosing who can and cant have these piercings/tatoos is discrimination and can open up a door to issues, potential discrimination law suits. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. Thats just the way it is. If your view is so clouded and cant see thru it, I have no need for your job or your friendship. Business owners (and the NFL is a business) have a right to do so. This is kin to Cowherd making his point that Romo needs to take that damn backwards baseball cap off.. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis. Personally, I hate tattoos. New York Yankees veteran left-handed reliever Aroldis Chapman was placed on the 15-day injured list Saturday because of an infected wound he got from a recent tattoo procedure, the club announced. It happens in many different workplaces. Although I do understand his rationale. (Ive always made sure my tattoos can be covered up when the need arises). I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . Sounds negotiable to me. Pogba is 1.8k Views. Fans may be the lifeblood of the NFL, but theyre going to be there regardless. I think the owner has the right but I dont see how it helps your team win games. If Cam really wants a tat that badresign from the team. Calf Football Tattoos 10. - Making a tournament bracket template in Microsoft Word If you use Microsoft Word version 2010 to 2013, you can create a tournament bracket template by drawing the text boxes as well as the connecting lines. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. Richardson is an idiot. He is just one of many muslim footballers without tattoos. This is way different. And Im sure his agent wanted the commission on that money. LOL, Richardson is senile. Pittsburgh, New England and New York are thought to have the best onwership and those rules dont exist. Bicep Football Tattoos 3. How many bankers have you come across with facial tattoos and lip rings? . As much as I DESPISE players using the slave term. As it turns out, its standard practice when potentially putting inmates with rival gang ties in the same jail space. Are you guys Fn kidding me? Most employers have some sort of dress code employees must stick to-even our military when it comes to tattoos and piercings. So, Richardson is right and I would be the same way, if it were my business. LaMarcus Aldridge has more than one tattoo 1. People forget that these guys work FOR the owners just like you work FOR your boss. Newton is going to be the face of the franchise, and this is Richardsons franchise. Solid Oak Sketches filed suit on Monday in New York federal court, saying that particular tattoos depicted on players in the recent game NBA2K16 was the company's copyrighted work. employees do have rights. There are very few that can pull off reasonable tattoos, and none that can pull off piercings. How some of you idiots turned this into a race/slavery issue is beyond me. Not a big deal though, most employers want employees to look professional. Thankfully, the tattoos didn't stop 25-year-old Kaepernick from getting an NFL job. If you explain the business reasons , most would go along. So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. That is fine. This isnt a matter of an owner telling a player how to dress and act; its about a businessman maximizing his products marketability. Though Newton cant be disciplined for getting a tattoo or a piercing or multiple of either, Richardson has made his wishes clear and hed likely be unhappy if Newton defies them. Bottom line is its up to the owner to decide how the team is presented to the fans. In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. Newton is entitled to pay attention, or to ignore him, and the CBA doesnt give Richardson any freedom to fine him. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. WebMiami Sports. Of course, if Richardson keeps writing checks like he has these past few months, Im sure those offended players could get over it. i think a TON of people are missing the point. NOW that is FUNNY. With regards to the NFL, people would watch it still if the players wore snuggies instead of uniforms. WebWe assumed 100 players (entries) for this tournament. Peyton sure makes alot of extra money in endorsements. That being saiduntil the NFL states itI dont think the individual owners have the right as they are just pieces of the whole organization. I liked it better when players took steroids bigger,stronger,faster whats wasnt to like ? Many athletes get tattoos to honor those who have influenced their careers or to represent themselves positively through art. Salman Chaudhary Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! Do it all in one complete sports tournament management system. you ppl mean nothing, could find a monkey to do your job. He certainly has a right to do whatever he wants. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. Sounds like a real bigot. The NFL has punished several players for violating the leagues personal conduct policy, some without criminal charges. People always look way too deep into things. Jason Thompson 9. The man who was the first to hire a first ever owner to hire a black man as a HC, the first to ever hire a Hispanic as a HC and the first ever to hire a female executive? An NFL owner can tell his employers whatever he wants. Its a business people. Jerry Richardson is an A$$. I hate tattos, that being said, if I were Cams friend, I would be advising him to go out and get some ink, ASAP. Here's hoping he never feels a need to wear long sleeves under his 49ers jersey to cover the tattoos. I could go on with many more examples, but hopefully even your ignorant and mean- spirited brain can understand. Web1. You must be logged in to leave a comment. But dont act like Newton had the option to say, Well, I dont care for Mr. Richardsons rules, so Im going to play for whatever NFL team I choose.. If they are, then hell, I wish I was too. Cast a vote below. He has just as much right to put expectations on his employees as any other owner of any other company. They wanted that more than they wanted to stand on principle, piss off Richardson, and take the risk of dropping in the draft. This clause is enforced @ ALL TIMESwhether she is on or off duty. The New York Yankees have similar policies with being clean and neat looking. Gareth Bale follows the footsteps of his teammate Cristiano Ronaldo and refuses to wear any tattoos. Some employers even take it a step furtherMy partner is a firefighter, and she had to sign a morals clause as part of her employment contract with the city. LOL - Yeah, because having 60-80 yr old white guys running things has worked out so well lately.we should also commend them for extending their personal believes onto younger generations, because change is bad. Truth is though, Richardson is doing Newton a favor. Athletes are NOT slaves, as much as some like to say. Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. Its one thing to ask fans to spend a thousand bucks on season tickets; its another thing entirely to convince a corporation to spend a quarter-million dollars on a luxury box for one season, or millions of dollars for high-profile advertising space. He is the prototypical new wave QB, in my opinion. And to be honest, I seriously doubt many people care what you look like as long as you get the freakin job done. The kids might like it but adults ie people with money were turned off. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him? The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. These should be implied when you are put in place to be the Face!. . If it does become an issue he can always request a trade to the Raiders or Bengals. If Cam decides to get a piercing or tat, Im sure he will. Cam does not have an issue with it. I would, however, question the wisdom of trading him just because he doesnt have an unmarked body. I think Jerry Richardson is a boorish, stubborn, old man who was the driving reason/unreason behind the lockout. the guy owns a team and has a right to employ whomever he chooses to as long as he doesnt discriminate on a very specific set of items. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. You meant isnt in the last sentence, phaktor. Hes difficult, and in all liklihood the reason he doesnt want newton to have tattoos is because of a misconcdption about whether Newton can be successfully marketed while simultaneously being tatted and black. Would he have desired the came from Brady or Manning? If the owners made rules about when the players where allowed to go number 2 you would probably approve. If Cam wishes to get exposed tatoos, its his business, but then doesnt deserve to be rewarded for non-compliance when contract day rolls around. SMHI wonder if he asked Blaine Gabbert the same thing during their visit. I dont really like JR but it doesnt sound like he told Newton he isnt allowed to get tattoos or piercings, he was just letting him know he would prefer he doesnt. Also look to the military, sure soldiers, sailors, and airmen get tats, but if they are visible like on the face or hands they are subject to article 15 under the USMJ destruction or harm to Government Property like the individual who could be reduced in rank and subject to discharge. WebDerek, or Derek Arthur Paggao-Ramsay, was born in Enfield, England on December 7, 1976 to British father Derek Ramsay Sr. See Derek Ramsay full list of movies and tv shows from their career. The NBA says the players must wear normal clothes before and after games. I dont want to see a league where guys that have tattoos are only allowed to be on certain teams because the owners deemed tattoos to be bad for business. Apparently, Richardson is willing to tolerate those things when it comes to men who wont become the face of the franchise. Be sure to also read best tattoo ideas and designs for football lovers. Jerry Richardson wants it to be 1962 forever. Its called be an adult and realizing that you dont just get to do whatever you want and not possibly suffer consequences. If you work ANYPLACEyou have to follow rules. Never bothered him about Steve Smiths tats. And thats why theyre the Panthers. That being said if Newton is going to be the face of the franchise the Panthers have the right to tell him the image they want him to portray. And for that I applaud him. It would be one thing if he had a hardline policy where he refused to draft any players who had tatts or piercings. Last I checked, if the OWNER wants one of his EMPLOYEES to exhude a certain image, then the EMPLOYEE had better comply. People are giving examples of how things are in the workplace for non-professional athletesbecause (some of) these athletes are often out of touch with the reality of their fans lives. I have tats all overhowever, I now work in a field that requires I cover them when there. These players are supposed to be professionals and are paid like they are. Aug 24, 2011 5:45 AM ( conservatism reigns)Not unlike the person in the White House, Cam is being rejected for who he is and not what he does. He grew up during WWII for crying out loud. This is going to sound stereotypical but I would expect to see the tattoos in the auto repair shop, county fair, machine shop, steel mill while not seeing them in the operating room, court room, bank, schools and restaurants. Get a grip people. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. He said, No, sir. In my opinion, in most cases, tattoos and piercings just make players look immature and unprofessional. If my memory serves me correctly Jerry was a big supporter of the rooney rule. By that I mean.obsessively controlling and a little bit gay. Richardson has every right to tell Newton not to get Tattoos or piercings. Speaking about his likes and dislikes, the Egyptian king said: I dont have tattoos, I dont change hairstyles, I dont know how to dance. im not sure why the first reaction to all these stories where the league seeks to impose some sort of standard on its players has to be negative. For Jacksonville Jaguars defensive tackle Malik Jackson, he uses his body and tattoos to do so. I disagree with the assertion. Tattoo or not. Previous to this article, I was down on Cameron Newton. Those who say Richardson can run his business as he sees fit, that theyve had jobs that forbid tattoos, etc. Here's a look at the 25 worst tattoos, on current players, in the NFL, NBA and MLB. Cmon Cam show a pair! As one of the fastest players in the NFL, Mike Wallace puts fear in opposing secondaries. He looked at me with such disgust. Terrelle Pryor. If Cam chooses to do something contrary to the owners wishes then Richardson will no doubt calculate it when decided to resign him or not. I normally dont get into issues like this and have no hint of racist blood in my body (heck, my wife is white lol).The problem I have with this article is that I am sure the same questions werent asked about Gabbert by Richardson. When has it ever been cool to make up rules as we go? WebNFL players without Tattoos. Lavezzi, as well as being one of the strongest Argentine strikers, is one of the most tattooed football players in the world. I dont see what the big deal is. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. he should be allowed to get a BUST tattoo on his forehead. There is something special about being and NFL QB and Cam fully appreciates and understands that. Either way, there is nothing JR can do if Newton goes and gets a dozen tattoos and piercings tomorrow. NFL players can have as many tattoos as they want, and they do not have to cover them under any rules. Shoulder Football Tattoos 12. At any job the boss has the right to tell his employee what he can and cant do. Is that unreasonable? I dont have tattoos or any piercings, and I would like to keep it that way. If not, than hes way out of line. Oh this is NOT gonna get 8 pages of comments about how bad this man is out of his mind Nope lol wow. Just for the record, most old people prefer young people to not have any piercings, tattoos, or ridiculous hair. Any job like that is going to have image standards and moral terpitude clauses. It also seems to say more than we own your services and borders on we own you. Im not saying its right or wrong; thats just how it is. You can agree or disagree with Richardson. who careshe can run his business anyway he wantsthere are plenty of workplaces that dont allow tattoos or piercings. The poll results are sad. Its his team. Many business have dress codes and personal conduct codes. The easy solution is to remove non-visible piercings when you put on the uniform. 10 best NBA players who dont have tattoos. Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. Show me one NFL player without any tattoos and I will show you 15 that do. Itd be racist if he said it to all black players which he didnt. and second, since when did just having a tat make you immoral for some reason? You could go a lot of different ways with a tattoo featuring The Greek Freak as its headline, but the Milwaukee Bucks 2. Though, he usually likes to show off his collection of cars that he has deserved. Thats what all you widget owners want, right? Its not like this is new. I have said more than once that if scientists went into the lab to design the perfect QB they would emerge with Cam Newton. You must appeal to your demographic. On the other hand, the fact that THIS was the first thing the owner asked his new player about may show why this franchise has gone downhill so quickly. successful business owners in general (not the rule) tend to be type A personalities that think because they are the boss they can control everything. I. As a Panthers fan, this is one of the biggest non stories i have ever read on this site. So what if hes old school. Aug 24, 2011 6:29 AM But I bet its not always the case with sponsors and advertisers and the business that pay to be affiliated with the team. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. Big difference, in the case of the Yankees its team wide, where with Cam its just him. Its that simple. 22 million or needles in my nose and ears? Translation: Dont want to scare white people. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. This is the NFL not Wallstreet. And uh, I am a Raider fan. We want is not the same as I order or you must. If the Panthers owner feels that a certain outcome will lead to better marketing and sales while also happening to agree with his values then why shouldnt he say he wants that outcome? Jerry owns the team and can ask his player (s) to have no tattoos. Its his team so he can do so. . This is pretty standard. Where in this sentence did Mr. Richardson say he couldnt have a tattoo or any piercings? You are watching the sterilization of this country happening right before your eyesand I notice that most of you respondersare already touting the corporate linelike good lemmings do. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. Keyonta Muhammad Ansari, 7-May, /post/keyonta-muhammad-ansari/, -118. No matter how famous you are, somethings are prohibited in the Bale household and that includes tattoos. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. The society is beginning to infiltrate the entertainment that is conducive to a family visit to the stadium. These JR backers are really excited about being model employees and doing what your boss says. If he is quoted correctly there was no ultimatim, so there should be no issue. You want no tats or piercings? He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. The hard-earned money comes in the way of corporate sponsorships and advertising dollars. Not a member? My employer has a policy of no visible tattoos. It isnt illegal for the boss to discriminate against people with tattoos or piercings. Id be grouchy too if i was in my 70s. Why does a Man feel the need to wear an earring anyway?? Wrong. D@amn right he can dictate as he chooses. In any job, you have to understand and be prepared to deal with the bosss personality quirks and pet peeves. If the bank guaranteed me 22 million bucks in exchange for not mutilating my body, im pretty sure im gonna take that deal. In the end it is Cams decision how idiotic he wants to make himself look. mnfaninaz says: However, what Cam does with his body outside the realm of being in shape, keeping himself healthy and making sure he is prepared to lead the team effectively, is none of the owners business. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. Better keep him away from LameBron James then. Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. Hes an extremely handsome man, and with a little success on the field, can parlay that into a lucrative marketing deal. Its his team so he can do so. Yeah, I think owners have every right to decide whats important to them in building their brand, including whether their most marketable player has tattoos. Too funny..All you knuckleheads comparing your company policy on tattoos to the NFL is as flawed as the NFLPA being compared to the UAW. Richardson is just helping Cam be an entertainer and an icon.. to middle aged white people, just like himself. But he would be smart to play along. But anyway, he is a classy player but we wouldnt be surprised to see him in a tattoo shop. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? I bet 90% of people work somewhere that has some type of dress code, either cover tatoos, keep your hair neat. Hair style, personal choices, selection of spouse, where to eat, (god forbid he is seen eating at IHOP instead of Dennys) what to wear, where to go, etc, etc, ad nasuem. Who are their critics to say otherwise, nobody? In this country we have the freedom to make bad decisions. Paramedics and school teachers who work long hours for peanuts, because they want to make a positive impact on other peoples lives. Sadio Mane loves playing football and only football. As long as there continue to be other players on his team with tats or piercings, Newton can make a clear-cut case for discrimination if he is disciplined for getting either himself. This was a PRE-DRAFT interview. You can. Im perfectly OK with JR telling him how he should represent JRs franchise. Absolutely, Ill expect a dress code. You CAN tackle by the hair. First thing he should have asked his new QB is whether he though he could win a Super Bowl. Blanco hit eight homers for the Diamondbacks in just 37 games played last season. At least u admitted that ur white cause sadly, it seems catagorizing blacks is what many of u seem to enjoy doing without even thinking What this article reveals to me is that at some point in Richardsons thought process, it occurred to him that a BLACK QB will be leading his team and he wants to make sure that that potential team leader kept his appearance a certain way. Guess again. Hes not. It seems to be accepted in industries that dont deal much with the public, except for the carnival. The Senegalese star devoted himself completely to football and does not care about fancy stuff. If Newton busts, hell be off the team regardless if he has any tats or not. Giannis Antetokounmpo. They trade 90% of their drafted prospects anyway, but the guys they do bring up go along because that is the standard in the locker room amongst the veterans. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! 3. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. 4. Thread starter dolfan313; S When bosses complain about tattoos and such it is because they feel the tattoos are embarassing and they dont want to lose business. Is hard reset only way to salvage Jets QB dilemma? One guy I graduated from college learned this lesson the hard way. drmonkeyarmy says: Though the topic was addressed by Tom Sorensen of the Charlotte Observer in April, its worth repeating. Well, the guy got ticked off and blew the interview. updated March 23, 2022, 7:35 am I just wanna know why you cant tackle some fool by his hair if hes going to wear it hanging out so far. Missing ur point. This is funny. If you do not like your employers grooming policy you can seek out one that better suits your style. I can name SEVERAL black players in the league without tatoos and piercings. In a recent interview on "The Charlie Rose Show", Jerry Richardson recounted a conversation he had with Cam Newton on April 4 in which he asked Newton if he had any tattoos or piercings.